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Gordon 2006

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Summary

The Question

Must an instrument rating applicant log the 50 hours of cross-country PIC time and the 40 hours of instrument time separately, for 90 total hours?

Background

The question concerned how the 50 hours of cross-country pilot-in-command time in 14 CFR 61.65(d)(1) and the 40 hours of actual or simulated instrument time in 14 CFR 61.65(d)(2) relate for an instrument rating applicant.

The FAA’s Interpretation

No. The time required by 14 CFR 61.65(d)(1) and (d)(2) may be accrued concurrently, so the same flight time can satisfy both if all conditions of 14 CFR 61.65(d) are met. Instrument time counted as cross-country must meet 14 CFR 61.1(b)(3)(ii), including a landing at an airport at least 50 nautical miles straight-line from the original departure point.

Requester
Gordon
Issued
January 19, 2006
Subject
Pilot Certification & Privileges

Regulations Cited

  • 14 CFR 61.1
  • 14 CFR 61.51
  • 14 CFR 61.65

Page 1

U.S. Department
of Transportation
Federal Aviation
Administration
800 Independence Ave., SW.
Washington, DC 20591
Gareth Gordon
Dear Mr. Gordon:

In a letter dated Janmuy 19, 2006, you inquired about the application of Title 14, Code of Federal Regulations (14 CFR) section 61.65(d) which contains the aeronautical experience requirements for an instnunent rating. 14 CFR § 61.65(d) states in relevant part:

(d)

Aeronautical experience. A person who applies for an instrUillent rating must have logged the following:

(1) At least 50 hom s of cross-country flight time as pilot in command, of which at least 10 hom s must be in aiiplanes for an instrnment- aiiplane rating; and (2) A total of 40 hom s of actual or simulated instr11ment time on the areas of operation of this section, to include-You asked three inteITelated-questions which we condense to two and paraphrase. First, must a pilot complete the 50 homs of cross-country flight time prescribed by subsection 61.65(d)(l) prior to flying the 40 hom s of actual or simulated flight time prescribed by subsection 61.65(d)(2) and thus complete 90 total homs of flight? No. The flight time described in subsections (d)(l ) and (d)(2) may be accm ed concmTently. There is no requii·ement that these flight time requii·ements be met consecutively or sequentially. Thus the same flight time may be applied to satisfy both requirements provided that all the conditions prescribed (including those omitted from the quotation above) in section 61.65(d) are met.

Second, may a pilot complete the 50 hom s of cross-country flight time prescribed by subsection (d)(l) as pilot in command under actual or simulated instr1unent conditions, prescribed by subsection (d)(2), with a flight instru ctor qualified to provide instr1unent tr·aining and thus satisfy both requirements within 50 homs of flight time? Yes. As explained above, the requirements of subsections (d)(l) and (d)(2) may be accmed concmTently. In the hypothetical presented, the pilot may log time as pilot in command so long as he or she is "the sole manipulator of the conh'ols of an all-craft for which the pilot is rated" as is pennitted under section 61.51(e).

Page 2

We point out that flight time accrued under actual or simulated instrument conditions that a pilot seeks to apply towards the cross-country flight time requirement of subsection (d)(1) must meet the definition of cross-country time set forth in subsection 61.1(b)(3)(ii). Namely, the flight must involve a landing at an airport at least 50 nautical miles straight-line distance from the original point of departure. While it is possible that some portion of a pilot’s 40 hours of flight time under actual or simulated instrument conditions also would qualify as ‘cross-country time’, it is rather unlikely that all of your hours would be accomplished as part of cross country flying. In a typical training schedule, a pilot would be trained for a number of hours in basic instrument flying techniques prior to beginning cross-country flights under actual or instrument flying conditions. Thus, we believe the scenario described is unrealistic because it presumes that all instrument training, including the instruction in basic instrument flying techniques, would be conducted as a component of cross-country flights.

We trust this interpretation has answered your questions. This letter was prepared by Naveen Rao, Attorney, Office of the Chief Counsel and coordinated with the Flight Standards Service.

Sincerely,

Rebecca B. MacPherson

Assistant Chief Counsel, Regulations Division

Regulations Referenced

14 CFR 61.6514 CFR 61.5114 CFR 61.1

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Summary

The Question

Must an instrument rating applicant log the 50 hours of cross-country PIC time and the 40 hours of instrument time separately, for 90 total hours?

Background

The question concerned how the 50 hours of cross-country pilot-in-command time in 14 CFR 61.65(d)(1) and the 40 hours of actual or simulated instrument time in 14 CFR 61.65(d)(2) relate for an instrument rating applicant.

The FAA’s Interpretation

No. The time required by 14 CFR 61.65(d)(1) and (d)(2) may be accrued concurrently, so the same flight time can satisfy both if all conditions of 14 CFR 61.65(d) are met. Instrument time counted as cross-country must meet 14 CFR 61.1(b)(3)(ii), including a landing at an airport at least 50 nautical miles straight-line from the original departure point.

Requester
Gordon
Issued
January 19, 2006
Subject
Pilot Certification & Privileges

Regulations Cited

  • 14 CFR 61.1
  • 14 CFR 61.51
  • 14 CFR 61.65