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ADSB-ATC-AFS-400 2010

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Summary

The Question

Does the "same source" requirement in 14 CFR 91.217(b) mean ADS-B Out and the transponder must take pressure altitude from a single encoder?

Background

The FAA's Flight Technologies and Procedures Division asked about 14 CFR 91.217(b). About 100 Capstone Program aircraft in Alaska had earlier-standard ADS-B equipment and one altimeter but separate altitude encoders for the Mode C transponder and ADS-B.

The FAA’s Interpretation

Yes. Two encoders could make an aircraft emit two separate altitudes, the exact scenario the 14 CFR 91.217(b) amendment aimed to eliminate, so "same source" includes a single encoder. ADS-B Out meeting 14 CFR 91.225 and 14 CFR 91.227 must derive pressure altitude from the same source as the Mode C/S transponder; equipment not meeting those sections is not subject to 14 CFR 91.217(b).

Requester
ADSB
Organization
ATC-AFS-400
Issued
July 29, 2010
Subject
General Operating & Flight Rules

Regulations Cited

  • 14 CFR 91.217
  • 14 CFR 91.225
  • 14 CFR 91.227

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Federal Aviation
Administration
Memorandum
Date: July 29, 2010
To: Flight Technologies & Procedures Division, AFS-400
From:
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Prepared by: Lorelei Peter, Senior Attorney, AGC 200
Subject: ADS-BlATC Transponder Altimetry Source

This is in response to your request for interpretation of § 91.217, Data correspondence between automatically reported pressure altitude data and the pilot's altitude reference and§ 91.227, Automatic Dependent Surveillance-Broadcast (ADS-B) Out equipment performance requirements. Specifically, you question whether the reference to ADS-B Out in 91.217(b), only addresses ADS-B Out, as provided for in § 91.227. You also question whether the term "same source" in § 91.217 (b) includes a single encoder.

In setting forth the requirements for equipment and use of ADS-B, the FAA determined that aircraft must have equipment installed that meets TSO-C 166b or TSO-C 154c 1, as appropriate, and must meet the performance requirements articulated in § 91.227. Even though in the rule making process the FAA proposed earlier versions of the two TSOs stated above, the FAA concluded that mandating the use of TSO-C 166b/TSO-C 154c, which are the more mature standards, fully s,upports domestic and international ADS-Bair traffic control surveillance. (See 75 Fed. Reg. 30163.) Furthermore, in the preamble discussion of the final rule, the FAA responded to inquiries as to whether it would be operationally feasible to use previous versions of D0-260 avionics in radar and non-radar airspace before 2020. The FAA found that the existing D0-260 avionics does not meet the surveillance needs for ATC for several reasons: (1) D0-260 avionics do not independently report the accuracy and integrity metrics; (2) D0-260 avionics allows the integrity metric to be populated with accuracy information during integrity outages, which is unacceptable for aircraft separation' services; (3) D0-260 avionics do not include a message element for Mode 31 A code, which is necessary for aircraft surveillance; and ( 4) the majority of existing D0-260 installations were accomplished on a noninterference basis under the transponder approval guidelines. Consequently and absent upgrades to the avionics, this equipment does not meet 1 TSO-C 166b adopted the standards in RTCA D0-260B and TSO-Cl 54c adopted the standards in RTCA D0-282B. For historical purposes, please note that TSO-C166a adopted RTCA D0-260A and TSO-Cl54b adopted the standards in RTCA D0-282A.

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surveillance needs in the NAS and cannot be used for separation of aircraft. (See 75 Fed. Reg. 30176.)

The contemporaneous amendment to§ 91.217(b) in the ADS-B rulemaking linked together the ADS-B equipment requirements set forth in§§ 91.225 and 91.227 and the pressure altitude reporting requirements of§ 91.217. Therefore, the ADS-B equipment referred to § 91.217(b) must meet the performance standards required in§§ 91.225 and 91.227. Equipment that does not meet §§ 91.225 and 91.227 is not subject to§ 91.217(b).

With respect to your second question as to whether "same source" in§ 91.217(b) also includes a single encoder, you offer the following information. The FAA recently identified approximately 100 aircraft in Alaska, equipped under the Capstone Program, with earlier versions of ADS-B equipment installed that meet the standards ofTSO-Cl54a, TS0-166 and TSO-Cl66a. While these aircraft have a single altimeter, they also have two separate altitude encoders, one for the Mode C transponder and one for ADS-B. The use of two encoders could still result in the aircraft emitting two separate altitudes. As this is the exact scenario that the FAA intended to eliminate by amending§ 91.217(b), we conclude that the term "same source" includes a single encoder. Therefore, aircraft. equipped with ADS-B Out that meets the performance requirements of§§ 91.225 and 91.227 must derive the pressure altitude from the same source, which includes a single encoder, as the Mode C/S transponder.

This interpretation has been coordinated with the Flight Standards Aircraft Maintenance and Flight Technology and Procedures Divisions, the Avionics Systems Branch and the Surveillance and Broadcast Services Program Office.

Regulations Referenced

14 CFR 91.21714 CFR 91.22714 CFR 91.225

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Summary

The Question

Does the "same source" requirement in 14 CFR 91.217(b) mean ADS-B Out and the transponder must take pressure altitude from a single encoder?

Background

The FAA's Flight Technologies and Procedures Division asked about 14 CFR 91.217(b). About 100 Capstone Program aircraft in Alaska had earlier-standard ADS-B equipment and one altimeter but separate altitude encoders for the Mode C transponder and ADS-B.

The FAA’s Interpretation

Yes. Two encoders could make an aircraft emit two separate altitudes, the exact scenario the 14 CFR 91.217(b) amendment aimed to eliminate, so "same source" includes a single encoder. ADS-B Out meeting 14 CFR 91.225 and 14 CFR 91.227 must derive pressure altitude from the same source as the Mode C/S transponder; equipment not meeting those sections is not subject to 14 CFR 91.217(b).

Requester
ADSB
Organization
ATC-AFS-400
Issued
July 29, 2010
Subject
General Operating & Flight Rules

Regulations Cited

  • 14 CFR 91.217
  • 14 CFR 91.225
  • 14 CFR 91.227